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the citizenry, both in apprehending the folks, the videos that came in and everybody abided by the law. i think the mayor and the governor and the police chief did a fantastic job there. >> neil: do you think, steve, that -- we know obviously the target was mayhem and violence and death and all that, but that the business community was in any way a target, to disrupt them, to even disrupt your economy, an argument you often hear about 9-11, that it was much to have an impact on our economy as it was on our fears? >> i can't speculate about that. i think all i've been focused and our partners and the business community is try to get the aid to the victims. these victims' lives will be affected just from showing up at a marathon, it seems tragic. siphons will rally and help all these folks, both the business community, sports community, everybody is rallying around. >> neil: it must be a bipartisan rally because bain capital is the mitt romney-inspired firm. is there a sense that you get that invariably, the political snipeing has ensued about what the government knew and when about the
the citizenry, both in apprehending the folks, the videos that came in and everybody abided by the law. i think the mayor and the governor and the police chief did a fantastic job there. >> neil: do you think, steve, that -- we know obviously the target was mayhem and violence and death and all that, but that the business community was in any way a target, to disrupt them, to even disrupt your economy, an argument you often hear about 9-11, that it was much to have an impact on our...
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whether it would be a proper under the law, is an open question. they couldn't use any of the material that they illicited from him, but maybe they don't need it. they may also reindict him. >> well, they wouldn't use the inform in the criminal case against him but could use it to get to a wider group. >> oh no question. can you use it against anybody else. you only can't use it against this defendant. and they may be able to obtain such information. and if so, they might reindict him under the terrorist statute. it is a little odd that everybody regards this guy as a terrorist except the united states government. which has indicted him under ordinary murder statute that carries the death penalty. but often we see a second indictment following the first indictment, if more information comes forward. once he get's a lawyer and he says to his lawyer, by the way, i lied to the authorities. i really know a lot more, the lawyer might say, that's your best ammunition. why don't we now tell the federal government we really have more information and try to
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law the united states citizens can not be tried in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> tsarnaev now lies under armed guard unable to speak due to what may be a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his neck. authorities continue to question him, relying on written answers at this point. but his answers may be somewhat less important in his prosecution given the volume of evidence in the federal complaint, including description of video after the first explosion. "bomber two virtually alone among the individuals in front of the restaurant appears calm. he glances to the east and then calmly, but rapidly, begins moving to the west. away from the direction of the finish line. he walks away without his knapsack. having left it on the ground where he'd been standing. approximately ten seconds later, an explosion occurs." the complaint also contains details from the carjacking victim who says one of the suspects said to him, "did you hear abou
law the united states citizens can not be tried in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> tsarnaev now lies under armed guard unable to speak due to what may be a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his neck. authorities continue to question him, relying on written answers at this point. but his answers may be somewhat less important in his prosecution given the volume...
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law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is live with us right now. i know you've been reviewing these charges. what's the latest on what you've uncovered? >> it is a fairly interesting sequence of things that the government cites here as evidence. first of all they say that there was a surveillance tape that shows what apparently is the second suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, the man in the hospital, placing the bomb at the second bombing. this is unrelated picture to what i'm talking about now. but this is the person we're talking about. but the surveillance tape was taken at the scene of the second bombing. you may recall that there was a restaurant there called the foreign restaurant. they say a surveillance camera there shows him walking up to the restaurant with his backpack
law. the united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is live with us right now. i know you've been reviewing these charges. what's the latest on what you've uncovered? >> it is a fairly interesting sequence of things that the government cites here as evidence. first of all they say...
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well, the federal law allows death penalty. i wrote the law in 1994 when i was head of the crime subcommittee in the house. this is just the kind of case that it should be applied to. in fact, the only other time it's been used since '94 is on timothy mcveigh. and given what i've seen it would be appropriate to use the death penalty in this case and i would hope they would apply it in federal court. >> let me move you both onto immigration. with the one big picture question to you both and that is do you see anything -- we have one suspect now deceased older brother who was a permanent resident. we have another who is a naturalized citizen as of last year. do you see anything in the legal immigration system that you now want to go back and say we need to fix this or that and include it in our bill, senator graham you first? >> well, i want to know how the fbi or the system dropped the ball when he was identified as a potential terrorist. but in terms of immigration, i think now is the time to bring all the 11 million out of the
well, the federal law allows death penalty. i wrote the law in 1994 when i was head of the crime subcommittee in the house. this is just the kind of case that it should be applied to. in fact, the only other time it's been used since '94 is on timothy mcveigh. and given what i've seen it would be appropriate to use the death penalty in this case and i would hope they would apply it in federal court. >> let me move you both onto immigration. with the one big picture question to you both...
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a we ensure that people who wish to do us harm are not eligible for benefits under the immigration laws including this new bill before us? host: we should point out that was before it dzhokhar tsarnaev was captured. he is under heavy guard protection, but one of the issues is whether or not he will be given his miranda rights. is he a u.s. citizen and under the constitution considered innocent until proven guilty, or is he an enemy combat? guest: you have people from the aclu and other supporters of civil liberties saying you have cases where -- you have the same two senators, john mccain and lindsey graham, who said this person is a terrorist and should not have miranda rights. it seems the obama administration is going to be straddling the middle ground, as they did with the so-called underwear bomber from a few years ago. host: "national journal" reporting the headline, "pete williams' reporting philosophy d y was g boon sighttory r guest: i would have to say that pete williams is the best i have ever come across, so measured and sofer. is amazing he was able to be showcased the way
a we ensure that people who wish to do us harm are not eligible for benefits under the immigration laws including this new bill before us? host: we should point out that was before it dzhokhar tsarnaev was captured. he is under heavy guard protection, but one of the issues is whether or not he will be given his miranda rights. is he a u.s. citizen and under the constitution considered innocent until proven guilty, or is he an enemy combat? guest: you have people from the aclu and other...
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law. united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions. this is absolutely the right way to go and the appropriate way to go. and when it comes to united states citizens, it is against the law to try them in military commissions. >> and it matters that the white house is treating the idea of holding an american citizen outside of the american legal system as what it is, which is crazy and unacceptable. and it matters that appears to be where americans stand on the issue too. when asked just last week in the midst of the aftermath of the boston bombing, with the images and videos of the horror there, the top of everyone's mind, which worries you more, the government will not go far enough to investigate terrorism because of concerns about constitutional rights, or that it will go too far in compromising constitutional rights in order to investigate terrorism. more people answered they are more worried about the government going too far. today is the first day of a big, important test for us as a country. a test of whether we will as a socie
law. united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions. this is absolutely the right way to go and the appropriate way to go. and when it comes to united states citizens, it is against the law to try them in military commissions. >> and it matters that the white house is treating the idea of holding an american citizen outside of the american legal system as what it is, which is crazy and unacceptable. and it matters that appears to be where americans stand on the issue too....
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. >> under the law of war there's no right to legal counsel when you're being questioned for national security purposes. so i hope the obama administration will allow that exception and they have a very bad track record here. >> the white house telling reporters it would try tsarnaev in federal court and no other options were considered. >> this is matter decide ode by the attend of yates and the attorney general. the whole national security team supports this decision. >> to bring it down for you, the confusion comes over the venue. there is no way under the military commissions act to try an american citizen at the military courts in guantanamo bay, but if a sed threshold of evidence was met, if there was evidence that the brothers were directed by a foreign terrorist organization that would call for enemy combatant status. >> we have been talking about the trip to russian that the older suspect took. it's my understanding you learn more about the trip. >> fox news was told that russia's equivalent othe fbi isn't a letter to the bureau claiming the older brother was a believer in ra
. >> under the law of war there's no right to legal counsel when you're being questioned for national security purposes. so i hope the obama administration will allow that exception and they have a very bad track record here. >> the white house telling reporters it would try tsarnaev in federal court and no other options were considered. >> this is matter decide ode by the attend of yates and the attorney general. the whole national security team supports this decision....
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the rule of law exists before the crime, and that the law be followed when you're prosecuting this person as it existed at the time of the crime. there's no provision for the president of the united states to take this guy, as horrendous as we believe he is, as profound the evidence of his guilt, away from the criminal justice system and ship him to guantanamo bay. i'll make senator graham's argument for him. if this guy is really a soldier from a foreign country who put civilian clothing on, who was financed and trained and paid for and sent here by a foreign government that wants to destroy the united states of america, then he can be treated as a soldier of a foreign country, then you can be treated as an enemy combatant. but governor, there's not an iota of evidence to support that. in fact the evidence the fbi has said is to the contrary. mayor menino, governor patrick, the head of the fbi in boston, have all said these guys were not sent by a foreign government. >> mike: i think you make a great point, too, about the just dessert that people get. timothy mcveigh, a sense of justice
the rule of law exists before the crime, and that the law be followed when you're prosecuting this person as it existed at the time of the crime. there's no provision for the president of the united states to take this guy, as horrendous as we believe he is, as profound the evidence of his guilt, away from the criminal justice system and ship him to guantanamo bay. i'll make senator graham's argument for him. if this guy is really a soldier from a foreign country who put civilian clothing on,...
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new jersey's existing gun laws are already among the strictest in the nation. by the way, christie's move is a reminder he's still running for re-election, not for 2016 yet. >>> as we wait for formal charges to be brought against the 19-year-old marathon bombing suspect federal and state authorities are trying to determine what led up to last monday's attack and what red flags might have been missed. for more on that joined by nbc's national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. it seems to me the unanswered question everybody would like to know of, number one, where did these guys test? nobody believes this was the first time they did these bombs on monday. that they must have tested them somewhere. the second, what was tamerlan, the older brother, doing in russia for six months? >> reporter: exactly. there's so many unanswered questions here. but let's start with the -- that russian report to the fbi in 2011 asking them to investigate tamerlan. what sparked that -- the russian request? what information do they have? the fbi says that the russians didn'
new jersey's existing gun laws are already among the strictest in the nation. by the way, christie's move is a reminder he's still running for re-election, not for 2016 yet. >>> as we wait for formal charges to be brought against the 19-year-old marathon bombing suspect federal and state authorities are trying to determine what led up to last monday's attack and what red flags might have been missed. for more on that joined by nbc's national investigative correspondent michael isikoff....
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, federal or state law enforcement. that being said, they are human. mistakes sometimes are made. of course, it raises questions when you hear that the government of russia alerted us about this man and he was under questioning, was investigated and nothing happened. if there are questions that can lead to improving the protocol, to improving the process, to maybe catching a bad guy before he does heinous terrorist acts, i say, let's go through the process. we're all going to learn from it. >> we've been talking about the weapons that these guys had. you know the gun control debate is coming into this. l.z., the centers failed to advance gun control that would have ics panded background checks and closed the gun show loophole. on friday, some gun rights activists said that the boston lockdown with residents warned to stay inside and not to answer their doors to anyone but police, they said it was a perfect justification for owning a gun. are we done with new gun control efforts and does this story, what's happening here
, federal or state law enforcement. that being said, they are human. mistakes sometimes are made. of course, it raises questions when you hear that the government of russia alerted us about this man and he was under questioning, was investigated and nothing happened. if there are questions that can lead to improving the protocol, to improving the process, to maybe catching a bad guy before he does heinous terrorist acts, i say, let's go through the process. we're all going to learn from it....
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the fbi, law enforcement, has to make this case out piece by piece. have to lock out claims. has to anticipate, perhaps they would try to use a mental health defense in the trial. you're getting so far along in this case you're thinking about the death penalty phase. at some point probably sooner rather than later you're going to end up looking at their childhoods, where they came from. it's a sweeping, really unparalleled investigation other than the 9/11 investigation. there's a blank check. it's a full-court press. it's a criminal investigation. but also obviously you need to ascertain that there's nobody else afoot with these kind of designs associated with these folks. >> and investigators would be looking at cell phone records, credit cards, photographs, all of that? >> there's essentially an unlimited supply of information they can get. travel records and the like. there will be an autopsy of these people that's really unparalleled. if they didn't pay a light bill on time, that will come up. they'll absolutely thoroughly go through this and rightfully so. >> now, micha
the fbi, law enforcement, has to make this case out piece by piece. have to lock out claims. has to anticipate, perhaps they would try to use a mental health defense in the trial. you're getting so far along in this case you're thinking about the death penalty phase. at some point probably sooner rather than later you're going to end up looking at their childhoods, where they came from. it's a sweeping, really unparalleled investigation other than the 9/11 investigation. there's a blank check....
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law. united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions. >> the 19-year-old remains in serious but stable condition. fbi agents say he has multiple injuries including gunshot wounds to the head, neck, legs and hand and spent considerable time in surgery friday night. in response to the arraignment. attorney general eric holder said in a statement, quote: although our investigation is ongoing today's charges bring successful end for a tragic week for the city of boston and for our country. meantime tsarnaev's life has been saved, guarded, and arraigned all in the same hospital where his brother tamerlan died and where a number of victims from last monday's blast continue to recover. >> recovery from this scij solid -- psychologic solid a marathon. as you heard from my rehabilitation physician colleague here, it will take months for people to recover. nearly all of the patients have have lost legs are already walking the halls with they were they weres, it the i therapists, it ta
law. united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions. >> the 19-year-old remains in serious but stable condition. fbi agents say he has multiple injuries including gunshot wounds to the head, neck, legs and hand and spent considerable time in surgery friday night. in response to the arraignment. attorney general eric holder said in a statement, quote: although our investigation is ongoing today's charges bring successful end for a tragic week for the city of boston and for...
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well in the days since the boston marathon bombing that rocks that city americans and law enforcement agencies across the country have been on high alert earlier today there was another momentary scare when one of the most trusted news organizations in the world the associated press posted this breaking news updates through their official twitter account. the tweet claims that there were two blasts outside of the white house and that president obama had been injured but that tweet was fake the a.p. twitter account had in fact been hacked now we're going to list the damage was already done and within seconds that update had been retreated for a thousand times and apparently wall street was watching stocks took a nosedive within minutes of the tweet being posted the dow jones dropped over one hundred thirty three points but just as quickly as it fell the stock market recovered when it was learned that the tweet was a farce so obviously the boston bombing is still having ripple effects on the fears of the american public meanwhile four days since the boston marathon bombings suspect joan
well in the days since the boston marathon bombing that rocks that city americans and law enforcement agencies across the country have been on high alert earlier today there was another momentary scare when one of the most trusted news organizations in the world the associated press posted this breaking news updates through their official twitter account. the tweet claims that there were two blasts outside of the white house and that president obama had been injured but that tweet was fake the...
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the senate was not able to pass a law tightening background checks last week. on friday nate bell tweeted this . . . >> michael: representative bell, i wonder how many of them wish tougher gun laws would have stopped the brothers from getting guns in the first place. you, sir, are a moron. coming up will the boston bombings impact the immigration talks here? you better believe it. and remember the whole airport armageddon that we never saw? well, we're seeing it now. and it was 10% political exercise, 80% three-ring circuit, and 10% awesome. monday night in "the war room," and we will be right back. ♪ >> if you believe in state's rights but still support the drug war you must be high. >> "viewpoint" digs deep into the issues of the day. >> do you think that there is any chance we'll see this president even say the words "carbon tax"? >> with an open mind... >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? >> ...and a distinctly satirical point of view. >> but you mentioned "great leadership" so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. >> (laughter). >>
the senate was not able to pass a law tightening background checks last week. on friday nate bell tweeted this . . . >> michael: representative bell, i wonder how many of them wish tougher gun laws would have stopped the brothers from getting guns in the first place. you, sir, are a moron. coming up will the boston bombings impact the immigration talks here? you better believe it. and remember the whole airport armageddon that we never saw? well, we're seeing it now. and it was 10%...
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that once the bill go into effect, the legalization, whether it's de facto or full strength of the law, will happen almost immediately and then from there, the citizenship will be probably a decade or more down the road. >> and the president's role in all this? what do you hear from the congressman? >> the congressman has been probably the best -- the biggest democratic critic of the president on immigration, particularly in the congress. people a few immigration who said obama helped them. but he got himself arrested protesting the deportation policy in 2010. from what i understand it's been difficult for the president to figure out what his role is because he really is supposed to be doing the cheerleader role for the house and senate rather than actually being presidential in the sense of -- >> or negotiating. >> or negotiating. >> keep in mind when this was last being, the same concept was last being discussed in the bush administration, there were members of both the department of homeland security and the commerce department up on the hill every day when they were doing this i'm
that once the bill go into effect, the legalization, whether it's de facto or full strength of the law, will happen almost immediately and then from there, the citizenship will be probably a decade or more down the road. >> and the president's role in all this? what do you hear from the congressman? >> the congressman has been probably the best -- the biggest democratic critic of the president on immigration, particularly in the congress. people a few immigration who said obama...
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let me explain one thing, the law is really clear because lindsay graham wrote the law. what he said is correct. you can declare him an enemy combatant and he will still be tried in a criminal proceeding in a civilian court system because that's what the law is. that has nothing to do with enemy combatant status. nothing. that's what they are trying do here. >> and that is not what that statute says. >> lindsey graham wrote the law and has been -- you are incorrect. you can be an anen combatant -- >> what he wrote was only aliens can be tried -- >> no, that's not correct. >> guys we have to run. >> you are incorrect. >> coming up tonight, we have a special hannity tribute to the great city of boston and the victims of last more than's horrific atank but first should torture be used to extract information from the bombing suspect? some are here to defend that statement. that and more coming up straight ahead. @ ♪ roundup ♪ now roundup has a new sharp-shootin' wand ♪ ♪ just point and shoot, and weeds are gone ♪ ♪ 'round fences, trees, even mulched beds ♪
let me explain one thing, the law is really clear because lindsay graham wrote the law. what he said is correct. you can declare him an enemy combatant and he will still be tried in a criminal proceeding in a civilian court system because that's what the law is. that has nothing to do with enemy combatant status. nothing. that's what they are trying do here. >> and that is not what that statute says. >> lindsey graham wrote the law and has been -- you are incorrect. you can be an...
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there was such a huge presence of law enforcement. we're talking thousands of people who were on the ground and they were sectioning off the entire area going block by block, checking the homes as they went, and there was one area that was of particular interest, and when it got quiet later -- earlier in the afternoon, we were told in fact they may be letting him rest to either give him some time to flush himself out, or pinpoint his exact location which clearly, they were able to do. so there is going to be a 9:30 presser. we are hearing that there is going to be obviously some information and sort of applause that will be coming out of that press conference, the fact that he's there and he's in custody but again, we do want to tell people that he was injured. there were some shots that were fired. plus he may have been injured even before he got to that location. so there's still a few wild cards in all of this. they do believe clearly that this is without question the person, you can hear all the cheering that's going on. we do als
there was such a huge presence of law enforcement. we're talking thousands of people who were on the ground and they were sectioning off the entire area going block by block, checking the homes as they went, and there was one area that was of particular interest, and when it got quiet later -- earlier in the afternoon, we were told in fact they may be letting him rest to either give him some time to flush himself out, or pinpoint his exact location which clearly, they were able to do. so there...
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guest: this gets into law enforcement areas. they needed the videos from the stores and the individuals who were there at the marathon. why they put the fun goes out outhy they put the photos -. there probably did have their home addresses but i do not think the young man headed straight home after the bombing. diskettes into the details of the investigation. isomes in on talking about the issue of the older brother, tamerlan. should we withdraw the visa? guest: the with the current system operates is your visa can be revoked for lots of reasons. host: clement that he is seeking asylum and goes back home for a longer period of time. guest: if there was any reason he was a danger, he could have .een barred from reentry card are lots of green holders better deported, because dnk to criminal or terrorist organizations. he could have been kept out of the country. we do not know what information the fbi had. twitter wantlks on to know more about the accounts on foreign relations. takes noe council specific position. i was the project
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the fbi as we understand from talking with law enforcement sources is entertaining the idea that he may have been framed because he did write extensively on the internet about his conspiracy theories and signed off many of his misses i'm kevin curtis and i approve this message. that is language that is very similar to that contained in the letters that were sent to the president, senator or robert wicker and as well a local judge in tupelo, mississippi, it was written i'm k.c. and i aprof this message i believes his brother was framed. the fbi acted too quickly in this case. this happened right after the boston bombings, they were under a lot of pressure to come up with a suspect. he says they simply came up with the wrong one. bret? >> bret: okay, john. much more on this with the panel. a strange story. we will hear from paul kevin curtis. a hazardous materials team is investigating another possible tainted letter this time a military facility. senator harry reid said it is joint base anna cost i can't bowling. the two suspects in what canadian officials say was a plot to derail a pass
the fbi as we understand from talking with law enforcement sources is entertaining the idea that he may have been framed because he did write extensively on the internet about his conspiracy theories and signed off many of his misses i'm kevin curtis and i approve this message. that is language that is very similar to that contained in the letters that were sent to the president, senator or robert wicker and as well a local judge in tupelo, mississippi, it was written i'm k.c. and i aprof this...
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if you see these men, contact law enforcement. if you know anything about the bombings or the men picture here please call the telephone listed on the photo arrays, that's 1-800-225-5324. all calls will be kept confidential. we have also established a web site for tips that directly relates to the bombing. please contact u at www.boston john mir thantip the photos can be viewed on our web sitebi.gov. for it is important to emphasize the images from mongd are indelible and the horror of that day will remain with us forever. >> brown: we're joined from boston by david boeri of wbur public radio. david, that was an extraordinary news conference. no description of the suspects other than the color of the hats they were wearing. they just decided to put it out there for the public. >> that's right. and this is an example, jeff, if ever there was one of narrow casting. they didn't make the description they put it out there, they tell people they don't want to know about anybody else, any other photographs or video except that that perta
if you see these men, contact law enforcement. if you know anything about the bombings or the men picture here please call the telephone listed on the photo arrays, that's 1-800-225-5324. all calls will be kept confidential. we have also established a web site for tips that directly relates to the bombing. please contact u at www.boston john mir thantip the photos can be viewed on our web sitebi.gov. for it is important to emphasize the images from mongd are indelible and the horror of that day...
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citizenship as far as the law is concerned? >> no, i don't think it would make any difference at all, because when this occurred and when the action occurred, when the crime occurred, and when the refusal, if you will, to read him his miranda rights occurred he was a citizen. so i don't think that would matter at all. >> all right, fred. >> christopher, this is fredricka in atlanta. i'm wondering, given you defended timothy mcveigh, oklahoma city bombing case, are you seeing any parallels between this case and that which you defended? >> well, there's certainly some parallels because you have the explosions and this wasn't -- fortunately, wasn't as devastating as the oklahoma city bombing was. but the trial is going to be as difficult, i believe, as the oklahoma city bombing. when you have to get in and get experts and bombing experts and people to help you learn how to blow up a bomb, build a bomb and clean up a bomb, that takes an extensive amount of time and a lot of expertise. whoever ends up defending this man is going to
citizenship as far as the law is concerned? >> no, i don't think it would make any difference at all, because when this occurred and when the action occurred, when the crime occurred, and when the refusal, if you will, to read him his miranda rights occurred he was a citizen. so i don't think that would matter at all. >> all right, fred. >> christopher, this is fredricka in atlanta. i'm wondering, given you defended timothy mcveigh, oklahoma city bombing case, are you seeing...
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>> i think that's just a misunderstanding of the law. if you look back over the history over the last 20 years particularly, our justice system in the united states has worked very well in similar cases. look what happened in oklahoma city with timothy mcveigh who was not only convicted but suffered the death penalty. look what happened with eric rudolph with olympiapac park. the fbi can put this case together and be prosecuted in the courts of the united states and let justice follow that way. i don't think this is any way should be relegated -- not relegated, but elevated to something on enemy combatant status. this is a crime against the people of the united states. it can be handled that way. i have every confidence in the justice department and state authorities in massachusetts to do that. >> douglas jones, thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> as boston tries to return to normal, what role will sports play? the sox and bruins are about to play here today. fans are honoring the city in a very special way. back
>> i think that's just a misunderstanding of the law. if you look back over the history over the last 20 years particularly, our justice system in the united states has worked very well in similar cases. look what happened in oklahoma city with timothy mcveigh who was not only convicted but suffered the death penalty. look what happened with eric rudolph with olympiapac park. the fbi can put this case together and be prosecuted in the courts of the united states and let justice follow...
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and i think it's fair to say the law isn't completely clear on this. let's us be clear on what we're talking about here. we're talking about the miranda warning. you have a right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you. you have the right to a lawyer, all that stuff. what the united states government has decided to do is invoke an exception to that rule. which says that when there is a danger to public safety and you need to get answers quickly, you can get the answers without the miranda rights and still use that information in court. so when does the clock tick on that period of the public safety exception? the moment you make an arrest, the moment you begin an interrogation, what? i mean, i think the justice department will take the position that it begins the moment they begin talking to him. but i suppose his lawyers can certainly say that the time had elapsed so much since his arrest that it's hard to assert that exception. my guess is that there's no clear rule here in the federal government. this is kind of a legal rule that'
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and other law enforcement sourcing. i don't know that we can definitively say right now that he wasn't on a list or was not being monitored. this is still a very fluid situation that's developing. we're doing the best job we can reporting. i know other outlets are. i think it's really important to in some ways let this play out, and especially now that the younger brother is in custody. there is not an active threat anymore. we don't have all the answers yet. here at the globe and other news outlets, we're going to try to get the answers. >> all right. thank you so much for joining us. >> of course. thanks for having me. >> thank you. up next on "the five," the latest on the victims, four are dead, over 170 injured and one police officer is fighting for his life. an update on them when we come back @@ >>> so we want to update you now on the only people that matter, the survivors of the boston terrorist attack, as well as the latest on the funeral plans for the four victims. eight-year-old martin richard, 29-year-old c
and other law enforcement sourcing. i don't know that we can definitively say right now that he wasn't on a list or was not being monitored. this is still a very fluid situation that's developing. we're doing the best job we can reporting. i know other outlets are. i think it's really important to in some ways let this play out, and especially now that the younger brother is in custody. there is not an active threat anymore. we don't have all the answers yet. here at the globe and other news...
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enforcement task forces throughout the country, state law enforcement and local law enforcement. the question becomes, how can we strengthen these relationships beyond just a relationship that's taken place historically. >> really quick here, 30 seconds, because there is a great deal of ignorance in this country when it comes to the islamic faith. for folks who don't understand the difference between islam and radical islam, give us the 101 here? >> well, islam represents peace, will be islam condemns killing people. you know, we often hear the words "jihad," but the jihad reference largely references an internal wrestling with good and evil, within one's self. not what we're seeing and not some of the crazies that are purporting to represent the faith. no different than having the ku klux klan claiming to represent christianity. >> appreciate your time, sir. >> an honor, sir. >>> as the people in boston mourn the dead and tend to the wou wou wounded, they are also starting the process of moving on. i'll talk about what they're doing now, how they're going to go about doing that.
enforcement task forces throughout the country, state law enforcement and local law enforcement. the question becomes, how can we strengthen these relationships beyond just a relationship that's taken place historically. >> really quick here, 30 seconds, because there is a great deal of ignorance in this country when it comes to the islamic faith. for folks who don't understand the difference between islam and radical islam, give us the 101 here? >> well, islam represents peace,...
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of law is upheld. special2007, the interests were brought in, being engaged behind closed doors, to help write a bill while law enforcement officers, the ones given the duty to make sure the laws complied with, have been shut out come as has been the public. this bill is amnesty before enforcement. begin now the is the promise for enforcement perry sa. today if it passes, illegal immigrants will have the percti of amnesty, and all the appellate panel pass it is submit alat ll never geimplemented. the bill's provision to include those who pose a public sector threat, as offirs w the bill. we have not gotten the full story on this issue. you will hear alarming facts, straight from the source, no immigration bill should ever pass congress that the law enforcement officers on the ground tell us will not work or cannot be enforced. senator, it is good to have you. if you would like to share a couple of remarks, and we will go straight to these gentlemen. >> thank you, and i am very honored to join jeff and
of law is upheld. special2007, the interests were brought in, being engaged behind closed doors, to help write a bill while law enforcement officers, the ones given the duty to make sure the laws complied with, have been shut out come as has been the public. this bill is amnesty before enforcement. begin now the is the promise for enforcement perry sa. today if it passes, illegal immigrants will have the percti of amnesty, and all the appellate panel pass it is submit alat ll never...
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citizen due to birth right law. she applied for aid to pay for her hospital bill and, you know, and when she did that, d.c. best contacted her and she now gets over $40,000 in federal assistance programs due to the link program, section 8 housing because of the child. nd she also gets daycare assistance and she's working under the table for $6 an hour for a major landscape company in peoria. and when i hear that everybody says well, illegal immigrants will not get any benefits, i hope everybody listening, especially minimum wage workers, i hope they're appalled at what i just told u. ho o let's get a response om rebea. guest: there are certain parts that the u.s. benefits system that people can access that the supreme cot ruled that people with public access cannot be denied of public school. you share a concern that is i'm sure shared by many people across the cub, but there is a lot -- country, but there are a lot of attention to how much people who are dream a system and house members who are working on immigrati
citizen due to birth right law. she applied for aid to pay for her hospital bill and, you know, and when she did that, d.c. best contacted her and she now gets over $40,000 in federal assistance programs due to the link program, section 8 housing because of the child. nd she also gets daycare assistance and she's working under the table for $6 an hour for a major landscape company in peoria. and when i hear that everybody says well, illegal immigrants will not get any benefits, i hope everybody...
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resulted in more information available to law lawful tools ing without needing to violate rights. senator mentioned graham. he pushed against the decision the combatant status. [video clip] >> i hope the congress will at this case and look at our laws and come to the to.lusion that i have come we are at war. for a going to be at war very long time and we have to have the tools to defend values.es within our one of those tools is the ability to question people about future attacks to gather intelligence for national purposes without benefit of counsel. the information will never be of law against the suspect. it will be used to protect us. the last thing in the world we should do in the times in which our ability limit to gather intelligence to the criminal justice system. essence you will have turned over the intelligence gathering process to the accused their lawyer. host: senator lindsey graham to usethe case yesterday the enemy combatant use for the bombing suspect. we go to anna, a republican from texas. caller: it is diana. hat i have never heard on the media and what i don't
resulted in more information available to law lawful tools ing without needing to violate rights. senator mentioned graham. he pushed against the decision the combatant status. [video clip] >> i hope the congress will at this case and look at our laws and come to the to.lusion that i have come we are at war. for a going to be at war very long time and we have to have the tools to defend values.es within our one of those tools is the ability to question people about future attacks to...
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it's possible that a person could be charged for violations of state laws and federal laws and also laws of war which are ajudicated in military commissions. military commissions can ajudicate violations of state or federal laws. they ajudicate violations of the law of war. martha: that would not apply here. there was some discussion about law of war when all of this begun began and the question of whether or not the administration perceives us to be involved in a war on terror and whether or not those rules apply. sort some of that out for us. what is your thinking about that? >> well the president makes a determination as to whether or not a person is a enemy combatant and then if the nation is in a situation that qualifies for law of war application, then a person could be apprehended as an enemy combatant and tried for violations of the law of war and adjudicated or tried in that setting in a military commission. we had early on in the war on terror, what was called the authorization to use military force, aumf, it is abbreviated as, and that has been held by our supreme court to hav
it's possible that a person could be charged for violations of state laws and federal laws and also laws of war which are ajudicated in military commissions. military commissions can ajudicate violations of state or federal laws. they ajudicate violations of the law of war. martha: that would not apply here. there was some discussion about law of war when all of this begun began and the question of whether or not the administration perceives us to be involved in a war on terror and whether or...
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and other law enforcement sourcing. i don't know that we can definitively say right now that he wasn't on a list or was not being monitored. this is still a very fluid situation that's developing. we're doing the best job we can reporting. i know other outlets are. i think it's really important to in some ways let this play out, and especially now that the younger brother is in custody. there is not an active threat anymore. we don't have all the answers yet. here at the globe and other news outlets, we're going to try to get the answers. >> all right. thank you so much for joining us. >> of course. thanks for having me. >> thank you. up next on "the five," the latest on the victims, four are dead, over 170 injured and one police officer is fighting for his life. an update on them when we come back okay, team! after age 40, we can start losing muscle -- 8% every 10 years. wow. wow. but you can help fight muscle loss with exercise and ensure muscle health. i've got revigor. what's revigor? it's the amino acid metabolite,
and other law enforcement sourcing. i don't know that we can definitively say right now that he wasn't on a list or was not being monitored. this is still a very fluid situation that's developing. we're doing the best job we can reporting. i know other outlets are. i think it's really important to in some ways let this play out, and especially now that the younger brother is in custody. there is not an active threat anymore. we don't have all the answers yet. here at the globe and other news...
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what does the law say? >> every terrorist suspect arrested in the united states, since the first world trade center bombing in 1993 has been treated in the criminal justice system, not as an enemy combatant. standard operating procedure. frankly, the whole status of enemy combatant remains ambiguous in the legal system. the prisoners in guantanamo bay remain in legal limbo. by treating them as criminal suspects, the obama administration is avoiding all kinds of risks and simply acting as the bush administration has in the past and as they have acted in other terrorist cases by using the normal criminal procedures. >> because lindsey graham and others say, yes, he should be tried as a u.s. citizen, should be tried in a u.s. civilian court, but that can await this process of doing some serious interrogation of him and designating him as an enemy combatant in the meantime. all of this is moot right now, because as you know, yesterday, he was formally given his miranda rights and a judge magistrate at his bed s
what does the law say? >> every terrorist suspect arrested in the united states, since the first world trade center bombing in 1993 has been treated in the criminal justice system, not as an enemy combatant. standard operating procedure. frankly, the whole status of enemy combatant remains ambiguous in the legal system. the prisoners in guantanamo bay remain in legal limbo. by treating them as criminal suspects, the obama administration is avoiding all kinds of risks and simply acting as...
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police officer, seriously injured another local law enforcement officer. do we have any idea where they got those weapons? >> not yet. and i think that question also extends to the explosives, as well. but this is an investigation pursuing lots of lines of inquiry both foreign and domestic. i would have to guess, though, that rather than risk acquiring weapons and explosives from abroad, it's much more likely they were acquired domestically. >> these two guys apparently didn't have much money, but enough to buy explosives, pressure cookers, a rifle, long rifle according to the watertown police chief i spoke with. other weapons, as well. >> i'm sure they're already well into the suspect's computer files and financial records. we're getting a mixed picture because on the one hand, they seem to have had a modest style of living. on the other hand, there is that picture that's been widely circulated of suspect number one wearing expensive shoes, expensive clothes, other reports by people who knew them that the older brother engaged in a more lavish lifestyle.
police officer, seriously injured another local law enforcement officer. do we have any idea where they got those weapons? >> not yet. and i think that question also extends to the explosives, as well. but this is an investigation pursuing lots of lines of inquiry both foreign and domestic. i would have to guess, though, that rather than risk acquiring weapons and explosives from abroad, it's much more likely they were acquired domestically. >> these two guys apparently didn't have...
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that is the law right now? >> that would not fly as the law stands right now but i think this case, is a wonderful example of why congress needs to revisit that law. jenna: why? >> because, in my opinion, we simply can not protect the homeland in this day and age where someone this unsophisticated, acting alone or with one other person can cause this much damage. we have to send a clear notice to our enemies abroad, and within that if you take up arms against the united states, remember the victims in this case weren't only innocent victims in boston. this was an attack against the united states to terrorize our population. they need to be know that you will be dealt with swiftly. you will get due process, but that due process will be swift and absolute. jenna: one. variables it seems in this debate whether or not this young man we continue to see his picture time and time again is tied to a bigger group and it seems in the president's designation of being able to hold somebody, you mentioned the parts of wheth
that is the law right now? >> that would not fly as the law stands right now but i think this case, is a wonderful example of why congress needs to revisit that law. jenna: why? >> because, in my opinion, we simply can not protect the homeland in this day and age where someone this unsophisticated, acting alone or with one other person can cause this much damage. we have to send a clear notice to our enemies abroad, and within that if you take up arms against the united states,...
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i believe that whether or not what -- what -- the law is is what the law is, i am pro choice, pro gun, pro everything. however, my biggest concern, and it saddens me that -- how divided and separate we are as a nation to take such a tragic event like this and -- and turn it into a political thing. it just -- it just really is upsetting. >> stephanie: well, what -- let's start with who and what? how -- i mean to me -- >> caller: both parties. both parties. >> stephanie: how are both parties doing it though? i agree with you on some things but i think there is false equivalence in this case, right-wingers are out there immediately, chuck grassley was the first one to say we have got to hold up on immigration reform. >> caller: exactly. exactly. >> stephanie: we spot lighted the republican from arkansas that tweeted in the middle of the tragedy about cowering liberals wish they had an ar 15 tonight i bet. >> caller: now we're debating the fact of how this individual is going to be prosecuted and it's from both parties, while their -- the republican side the democratic side everybody sayi
i believe that whether or not what -- what -- the law is is what the law is, i am pro choice, pro gun, pro everything. however, my biggest concern, and it saddens me that -- how divided and separate we are as a nation to take such a tragic event like this and -- and turn it into a political thing. it just -- it just really is upsetting. >> stephanie: well, what -- let's start with who and what? how -- i mean to me -- >> caller: both parties. both parties. >> stephanie: how are...
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they are law abiding. they go through a background check when they purchase their firearm and want everybody else to go through a background check. to speculate that because a state like wisconsin, you know, a tradition of gun ownership, those are the very people that understand the responsibility and this t lethality of a firearm and don't want the criminals. those persons dangerously mentally ill giving them a bad name. i would speculate that, you know, we are going to see a different sort of gun owner emerge. there is -- serious but small percentage of gun owners who are radical and -- you know, just fire, you know, and threaten and -- let their voices be heard. i suggest that they are a minority of gun owners. >> the biggest category we have to get to is the rank and files, biggest category we have. we are going through that after this. >>> life is full of surprises except when it isn't. that brings us to the anti-background senators that followed the script perfectly. they are senators that don't alwa
they are law abiding. they go through a background check when they purchase their firearm and want everybody else to go through a background check. to speculate that because a state like wisconsin, you know, a tradition of gun ownership, those are the very people that understand the responsibility and this t lethality of a firearm and don't want the criminals. those persons dangerously mentally ill giving them a bad name. i would speculate that, you know, we are going to see a different sort of...
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the law would be carried out. that causes me a great deal of concern. october in 2011, i share with you my concerns. the department has been more focused on meeting with special immigration groups then supporting them and helping them accomplish with the law requires in this country. have you met with those officers and you said no. have you met with the officers of the ice association? >> have a spoken to border patrol officers in the field, yes. >> i think you should have met with them in the field. morale of ice employees had dropped. were you aware that the morale at ice had dropped? >> that is a real concern of mine. >> are you aware in lawsuit has been filed? a vote of no-confidence in the ice director was held. nothing has been done to deal with the failed leadership at that agency. >> ice has increased its enforcement efforts and has installed real priorities for the first time. the director gets criticized for departing too many people as opposed to not enough people. that is a difficult job to have. ice
the law would be carried out. that causes me a great deal of concern. october in 2011, i share with you my concerns. the department has been more focused on meeting with special immigration groups then supporting them and helping them accomplish with the law requires in this country. have you met with those officers and you said no. have you met with the officers of the ice association? >> have a spoken to border patrol officers in the field, yes. >> i think you should have met with...
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i just hear harry reid, and him talking about the new laws -- forget the laws do what you got to do -- >> when 26 people get killed by one person inside a school that's more -- that's huge news. >> stephanie: harry, honestly, do you think the media would have ignored it if they were black kids? i don't. i think 20 kids got blown away in their first grade class i think there would have been equal coverage. [overlapping speakers] >> caller: in general -- look, from i'm from that generation. i had got caught up in the streets when i was a kid. [ inaudible ] that didn't fall there by accident. i mean 30,000 kids a year. i understand 22 kids. i feel bad for the parents. if i would have been one of the parents, i would have been ready to find that guy and do what i had to do. >> stephanie: right. >> caller: but the fact of the matter is it's still 30 to 35,000 black youth that die in america. that's appalling. >> stephanie: it's all part of it. and that's why doing something about all of these billing would have helped. these bills wouldn't have just helped white people they would have help
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air law degreerned his from brooklyn law school and served in the u.s. air force. who will be asking the questions of dzhokhar tsarnaev? most likely it will be members of this high-value interrogation group that works for the obama administration. about reported in 2010 how it is believed that the organization is now led by the fbi, but it also has participation from the defense department, the central intelligence agency. there are several agencies involved with this group of experts about balancing these interests out, making sure that if there is important information for national security, that that information can be brought through the course of a lawful investigation, and also making -- theat the individuals suspect is able to be brought to justice. host: let me put another voice on the table, dick cheney. one year ago, the former vice president talked about techniques used to get information, individuals that he said were high-value targets to protect the homeland. here's a a portion of what he had to say. some of the>> strongest controversy surrounding som
air law degreerned his from brooklyn law school and served in the u.s. air force. who will be asking the questions of dzhokhar tsarnaev? most likely it will be members of this high-value interrogation group that works for the obama administration. about reported in 2010 how it is believed that the organization is now led by the fbi, but it also has participation from the defense department, the central intelligence agency. there are several agencies involved with this group of experts about...
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republican law mangers like senator rand paul are urging caution on changing immigration laws right now. senator paul writing to senate majority leader harry reid, quote we should not proceed tpwh-l we understand the specific failures of our immigration system. why did the current system allow two individuals to immigrate to the united states from a chechen republic of russia who committed acts offer to reus eupl. were there any save guards? could this ha been prevented, dores the immigration laws before prevent this? jay carney was asked about this at the press wraoefg. >> do you think rand paul has a point at all that what happened in boston reflects something wrong with the current system of immigration >> we believe we need to move forward with comprehensive immigration reform for a whole host of reasons and the benefits that reform will provide to our country, to our economy, to our security. and we agree with those, coauthors of the legislation in the senate who have made the point in recent days that enhancing our security is one of the reasons why we should press forward with co
republican law mangers like senator rand paul are urging caution on changing immigration laws right now. senator paul writing to senate majority leader harry reid, quote we should not proceed tpwh-l we understand the specific failures of our immigration system. why did the current system allow two individuals to immigrate to the united states from a chechen republic of russia who committed acts offer to reus eupl. were there any save guards? could this ha been prevented, dores the immigration...
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immigration laws. two large companies in minnesota, carlson and medtronic says the current law hurt our ability to recruit and retain top talent. they are part of a coalition, uniting american families act, and a bill will give committed st. essex couples the same immigration opportunities as other couples. i was recently told of another minnesota company, a smaller company, that will likely have to shut down because the owners, a same-6 couple, will not be able to stay in the country. this point i would like it to enter into the record a letter from the 30 companies that compromise -- that comprise this coalition. is that all right, mr. chairman? i would like to enter a letter from 30 companies in support of your bill. iter >> those circumstances, is quite all right, and of course we will be delighted to have it. i know everybody will want to read it before that date is out. thank you. >> ok, thank you. to finish this point. speakask mr. holtz-eakin to it. do we not miss an opportunity to strengthen o
immigration laws. two large companies in minnesota, carlson and medtronic says the current law hurt our ability to recruit and retain top talent. they are part of a coalition, uniting american families act, and a bill will give committed st. essex couples the same immigration opportunities as other couples. i was recently told of another minnesota company, a smaller company, that will likely have to shut down because the owners, a same-6 couple, will not be able to stay in the country. this...